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Myostatin Roundtable
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Chris Shugart
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The Myostatin Roundtable
With Dr. Tim Ziegenfuss and Dr. Stephen McGregor



Chris:
Okay, let’s start with the basics here, guys. When a person starts training, he adds muscle very quickly. After several years, this slows down and soon he’s lucky if he adds a few lean pounds a year. Why? What is it in the body that limits muscle growth?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Biotest and Pinnacle have both developed products that contain a myostatin binder, called CSP-3. So what is CSP-3 supposed to do as far as taking the limits off muscle growth?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Chris: Interesting. What’s your take, Steve?

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Okay, mice with great pecs and bulls with big honkin’ sirloins. Now, where does myostatin binding come in?

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Okay, I’m aware there’s a myostatin gene and there's a myostatin protein. What do we need to know about that?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Does myostatin come into play after we’re born?

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: So we’re not talking about "turning off" a gene here, but limiting what it can do?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Explain it to me like I’m ten years old and have Attention Deficit Disorder. What is difference between hyperplasia and the proliferation of new muscle cells?

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Thank you, Captain Encyclopedia. Now, these gains from taking a myostatin binder are touted as being permanent. Explain that to me.

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: What about myostatin’s effect on hypertrophy?

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Let's get back to this hyperplasia thing. Inhibiting myostatin won't pack on pounds of muscle overnight, meaning you'd need to give the new muscle cells some time to develop, correct?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: So, over time, you could conceivably gain a substantial amount of muscle mass by inhibiting myostatin. But how long before the average guy will notice the benefits? And will he "feel" anything?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

With myostatin inhibition, I doubt if the individual would feel anything. Myostatin doesn’t exhibit any neuro-inhibitory effects that I know of.

Chris: What side effects or risks are involved with CSP-3? Will binding myostatin affect cardiac muscle?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: So to appease those worried about trying something so new, tell me this: Are you taking it yet? If not, will you be?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Should CSP-3 be taken on a bulking or a cutting phase?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Chris: Tim Patterson mentioned a study in Part 2 of The Myostatin Project which showed that animals with lower myostatin levels have anywhere from 33 to 50% less body fat, regardless of diet. Does that mean this supplement could lead to body-fat loss as well as the formation of new muscle?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Any special workout that would complement this product well? There’s been some talk about using slow eccentrics with a good stretch.

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Fascinating stuff. How about diet when using Myostat or MyoZap? Is it like steroids where people have to eat tons more protein?

Dr. McGregor:

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Chris: Any point in "loading"?

Dr. McGregor:

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Chris: How about stacking Myostat or MyoZap with anabolic compounds?

Dr. Ziegenfuss:

Dr. McGregor:

Chris: Thanks for talking to us today, guys.


Man, that’s a lot of info to digest, so here’s a brief summary:

CSP-3 (Myostat or MyoZap) might literally take the "governor" of muscle cell growth, leading to new, previously unseen gains.

It may take a few weeks to see results, but unlike steroids, the results may be permanent.

CSP-3 does not affect heart muscle.

Heavy eccentric workouts might work best while "on" and workout time could possibly be increased without causing overtraining.

Might aid in fat loss.

Should work in both bulking and cutting stages.

There are no know negative side effects.

Stacks well with androgens like steroids or MAG-10.

The mechanism is non-hormonal, so drug tests will not be an issue.

Use could cause you to be mistaken for a steer and taken to the slaughterhouse.


About the Contributors

Tim Ziegenfuss, Ph.D., CSCS is the Chief Scientific Officer for an industry-leading, pharmaceutically-licensed nutritional supplement company. Tim is also an Adjunct Professor of Nutrition at Kent State University and has monthly columns in Physical Magazine and Muscular Development. Previously, "Dr. Z" spent five years as a college professor, teaching (Anatomy/Physiology, Sports Nutrition, Exercise Physiology) and researching sports supplements (creatine, protein, pyruvate, androstenedione, androstenediol, ma huang, ribose). You can contact Tim with questions about training, nutrition, or supplement use at: tzphd@hotmail.com


Stephen J. McGregor, Ph.D. received M.S. in molecular microbiology in 1995 from the University of Toledo, and a Ph.D. in Applied Physiology in 2001 from the University of Toledo. Dissertation work for the Ph.D. related to changes in gene expression resulting from contraction-induced muscle injury. Currently he’s an Assistant Professor of Exercise Science at Eastern Michigan University and co-director of the Nutriceutical Research and Training Institute.

 

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